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Good article. I'm fascinated by this story cause it's bat shit crazy Nothing at all. That was the first sign he was losing it.

Bob was just to unassuming and too naive. King Elite, I agree with you, but Bob was not mentally stable.

Unattractive folk find partners; not all couples out there, gay or straight, are of Hollywood caliber. The first sign of trouble, I think, was following Gene when he moved.

Which is why I wanted more of Bob's back story. Things had been going wrong long before this. Thanks for your comments.

I am glad you enjoyed the post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was a very unusual and interesting case that I saw on ID channel.

I thought I would do some research to try and get more information. How disrespectful and nasty of a person can you be! Bashton T. Paahty, Maybe if you had read beyond the first two sentneces, you would have grasped their context.

Maybe not. Because others who have read the whole thing have stated what you did. I will say this. I welcome your opinion, but it is fascinating to me that this post is, if not the most, one of the most frequently commented upon.

Were this a man-woman story, would it have elicited the same comments, or amount? I wonder. Gender and sexuality have nothing to do with it.

Your lack of compassion and disrespect is the issue. Remember these men especially Gene but including Bob have people who loved them.

The article would have been informative without the comic relief seeing that it missed its mark and instead displayed a plain lack of compassion.

Because you are a nut, not because you are gay, somehow you justify Bob's actions because he is a homosexual. Quit being a queen and be you.

As it is, you embody the same disgusting traits as gay bashers: blind devotion to all that is homosexual. Baahston Paahy, I am not unaware that both Bob and Gene had people who loved them.

In one of the posts--either this or the one I did regarding "The Killer Beside Me" expresses compassionate for those folk, who are victimized by this tragedy, too.

This could have happened no matter what gender or sexual orientation-- you are right about that--but I feel so many detracting comments stem from this being a matter between two men, and can't deal with it.

Deal with it, dolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Primetime, Boy, are you misinformed! If you read the post, nowhere do I justify Bob's actions.

I can understand his motives, but I never said he was right in killing Gene. If you look carefully, somewhere I say that when Bob showed up at Gene's job, and then bought the exact same truck, those should have been red flags for Gene.

I'm nuts? You're the nut, Captain Marvel! As for being who I am, well, darling, this is it, so if you cannot handle it, go elsewhere!

This is when you see the most superficial aspects of the community--which I do not share. Now, go set your afternoon tea, dear!!!!!!!!!!!!

Queen, I found your blog by searching the victim and offender by name. Yours is one of the 1st sites that appeared.

It has zero to do with any gay pride event or you being gay. I respect you as a gay male. I am straight but firmly support your rights and do not stand behind anyone who feels gays are any less entitled to live freely and equally.

My issue with you has zero to do with your sexual orientation. Rather, you seem to think homosexuals are better than others and should be considered at least as a 2nd victim when they commit egregious actions.

Had Gene killed Bob because he would not accept Bob's homosexuality or even if he was able to get the gun, kill Bob in self-defense, I bet dollars doughnuts you would be outraged that the gay basher was a murderer.

The simple facts here all point to Bob as one sick fuck. Minimizing or justifying it in any way is just wrong. However, your lifestyle should be revered, with entire cities allowing gays to express pride for a week.

But damn the christians because they think differently. Hypocritical much? Fwiw, Queen, I do enjoy your writing style.

It has the facts and humor. You definitely inflect that you are a Queen no disrespect intended! I just think your deduction that Gene should have behaved differently to save his life and your empathy for Bob are way off.

I mean disturbingly off. Reading some of your other replies in the comments here, maybe what you wrote comes off a bit outside of your intent, but you still look at these events far differently than me.

I can agree to disagree! God Bless! Primetime, Of course I agree to disagree. That is what this fourm is all about.

I actually do agree with you that Bob was one sick fuck; what I am interested in there is how his upbringing or peronsal experience led to his getting that way.

In the sense of having his life ruined, being driven to suicide, and ruining Gene and his family, I regard Bob as both perp and victim, since his family, too was touched by this tragedy.

I never considered your issues with me about sexual orientation. Though I have to admit, if you had asked me the same question about a gay basher, years back, I would probably have said, "String him up!

Feel free to peruse. I do lighten up, sometimes!!!!!!!!!!!! You must be one of those self righteous opinionated want to be's..

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that no one really knows what went on afterJaye Jaye left and for the sake of filling in the gaps the writers for the show surmised.

You must also be the kind of gay person that my gay friends have told me of in that you are an instigator and just expect that all heterosexual people anti gay.

You ate hateful and you didn't know these people. Neither of them would have cared about someone's choice gay or straight only if they were a decent person who treated others well regardless of their sexual preference,race, ethnicity, ect.

Gene did nothing to warrant what happened to him and Jaye Jaye doesn't deserve to have a sarcastic bigot like you putting your twisted version of her life on your pathetic blog.

Spread love not hate! I agree he would have killed her, too. He regarded her as the obstacle! PharmRecruiter, Boy, are you off!

Rad it again! I say how understanding Jaye Jaye tried to be, and how admirable of her not to hate Bob in the face of what happened.

Bob was sick, yes, but this had been building for a long time. Not much is known back story, and that's where all the gay hate must have started!

Never let the Devil in for the ride, because sooner or later he will wanna drive. Gene should have put his foot down when he saw Bob violating his and his wife's personal space.

Most people don't wanna be rude, but sometimes you just have to be, the devil won't play with you Unknown, I agree with you.

Gene was just not that aware, or, as you said, did not want to be rude. Vette, This story was done twice on two different ID programs.

I think you're an idiot. And the tone of your narrative and describing this act of evil is bizarre. You seem amused by it all.

There's only one victim here and it ain't Bob. You are an awful person. These people are dead! Families are left with despair. Show some respect.

Being gay doesn't entitle you to be a jerk! Unknown, I am not denying mental instability in Bob. I believe had Bob been straight, the story would have played out similarly-- except the victim would have been a woman.

I disagree there is only one Bob victim. Bob was mentally ill. He took his life less out of fear of jail then of despair over if he could not have Gene, he could not have no one.

Loneliness is an emotional killer among the gay community. Believe me! I was not trying to be a jerk. I was trying to point out how Bob was in need of help he did not get, and so became as unstable as he did.

Gene had no clue Bob was ill--this is not his fault-- rather the two deficiencies created a perfect storm.

I feel for the victims and the families. Jay Jay at one point said that while she is saddened, she cannot find it in herself to hate Bob.

I don't say gays do jerky things, and I have written some riotous pieces on here! But that's not what I was going for, here.

Sweeet tea, darling?????????? Ok, let me start by admitting that I laughed out loud pretty hard when you talk about going to the kitchen and shoving the Jello Choc pudding down the guy's throat and saying 'EAT THIS!!

I love that I have had a lot of gay friends in my life dunno why, they are like moths to a flame to my admitted nuttiness and looks are so much a priority, and not being funny here, but none of them were any oil painting to look at.

I have just watched 'The Killer Beside Me' re. Gene had a big heart, a kindness about him and he sure loved his dogs a winner for me personally He seemed a lovely man, and I actually think he was not UNattractive at all and his heart made him more so.

It amazes me just how many ugly ass gay men set their standards way higher than what stares back at them in the mirror.

As for feeling sorry for Bob, hell no. He was out and about dicking many men before he latched on like a dose of the clap to poor Gene, so he was not some sad and pathetic loser who could not show his true self to the world.

He was just a sick stalker who wanted someone he could not have, well boo hoo hoo, we have all been there We build a bridge, get over it and get on with life.

Personally, I hope the asshole rots for what he did to a seemingly genuinely nice man. As a straight woman I can attest to the fact that they are bloody hard to come by these days!!

Unknown, I don't deny a lot of what you say, like the superficiality of some gay men. Speaking from experience, I think we all reach for the stars when young and are hormones are raging.

But the reality, when found, as I did, is so much better. You are right Bob was out getting lots of "action;" his problem was he had reached a point where he thought he had found the real thing, only he was wrong.

His sickness stemmed from not moving on, as most would. Gene, while victimized should have been more clued in--if a former coworker transferred to my job site, and bought a truck exactly like mine, red flags would go off for me.

Think of the movie "Single White Female. Gene and Jaye Jaye moreso. Oh, and, darlings, if you think finding a decent straight man is tough, going the gay route is even tougher.

For all reasons previously stated. I really lucked out, and thank God every day. Thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for your words why is any human being sitting here filling in gaps of such horrible tragedy??

You bored so sit here and judge the victims? Humiliating the family of the man who lost his life for trying to be kind to someone who was a loner and what you say odd!!!

Get out here!! Gay has nothing to with this the crime this evil man did!! Sadist comes in all forms and beliefs!!!

I feel for you on the closeted! I have many gay family members and friends! I see their struggle and pain and happiness too!!

Bob was gay ok and so what he was a man that was sick cause gay or straight the outcome would still be the same!!

If bob was infatuated with a woman well I feel this would be the case of the woman being killed. Why did no one in that mans life not see earlier signs of being mentally ill or strange stalker?

I mean the behavior shows badly why was gene the only one noticed? You try to be kind and nice at work but very distance due to the feeling of fear and uncomfortable feeling you have.

You hear things outside your window and feel watched it long process that makes you crazy and desperate to make it stop!!

He let it go on??! Please cause I know first hand how he felt and for being a man and man thought more that he just clingy and not all there in the head.

I feel their needs to be more awareness for this!! It happens more than world sees!! I know the scare the fear I am lucky to survive my case!!

Single parent and being working one that took all hours 6 days week! Scary and call police all we want but they too can only do so much.

Wow I missed who said gays pursue straight!! Wow so uneducated or blind from world? Your being taught inside a box never let others tell you what is what without getting out there and seeing for yourself!

Wow get to know people without stereotyping! I love all no matter what!! We all are humans so why do we pick and choose what and who is accepting.

That alone kills me my heart hurts cause what was wrong with him? He was sick he needed some help and no one helped him!! This tells me people need to stop being so selfish and about themselves so can realize a soul in need!!

Bob showed many signs and I just saw this on ID!! Awareness could help prevent this kind of thing to not happen!!

Awareness only can happen if we stop being selfless. Be that person and step in!! You see it or notice anything odd step in!!

Never know you can be one to change a outcome. I saw this today on ID, and several things struck me as very odd. Not to be disrespectful of the dead, but I wondered if maybe there was a relationship between the two men in the past that might have inspired Bob to follow Gene from one state to another?

I say this because he Bob obviously went to great lengths to be with him Gene. Gene was a Christian, so that would have been a definite no-no.

Also he was previously married for 20 plus years with no children, and he and his present wife were using artificial means of conceiving..

Inquisitive, I saw this same story on two different programs. I never got the idea there had been any relationship between Gene and Bob, other than Gene showing him friendship.

As you said, Gene was Christian, which would have prevented his having a homosexual relationship.

The relationship was something manufactured in Bob's disturbed mind. Gene should have been more astute about what was going on, but, unfortunately, he was not.

As for the children thing, I did not pick up on that. I have known many childless straight couples who are perfectly happy. But sometimes, with the clock ticking, there can be a change of mind.

Thanks for your comments! Tasha, You certainly had a lot to say, and I am glad you were able to get it all out.

I will try to respond to the points that stood out for me in your commentaries. I agree Bob needed help.

He had a brother, who knew Bob was gay, but may not have known how disturbed he was. That Bob was keeping a speaprate residence filled with sex toys says he was on the make.

His family may have tried to get him help, but he rejected it. Gene, I think, was the man Bob really wanted to be--some part of his was self-loathing, and that resulted in' the stalking, attraction, and obesseion.

If only Gene and his wife were aware of this type of behavior on Bob's part, this may not have happened.

Now, what is this you say-the way I understand it--about gays pursuing straights being a stereotype? Au contraire, it is more common than you think, especially among self hating gays.

I had a friend who would be constantly attracted to straight men at work, would befriend them, only to consistently become depressed when they did not want more--not even a one to one cup of coffee.

His experience is not unique among gay men. The general public just does not hear about it often. I also agree with you that if Bob were obsessed with a straight woman, this would have happened; hence my "Fatal Attraction" reference in the post.

This kind of behavior can reach across all sexual orientations. But I was glad you took the time to comment. Unknown, You say Fuck Bob?

Darling, that is what he wanted, in the first place????????? It was actually Safety Harbor where the bodies were found. Not a normal thing at all for this very expensive artsy town, that prides itself in diversity and a great sense of community.

Bo was truly a fruitcake! Janet, I have never been to Safety Harbor, but have heard of it. No denying Bob was a deeply disturbed person.

Someone should have intervened for him to get help! I think Bob watched too much gay porn with fantasies incest, doing it with your straight best friend, etc.

Analyst, Point taken, but lots of gay men watch porn, nurse fantasies, but don't act on them at all, or in ways that take peoples' lives.

Bob had a second residence that had sex toys, and was where he could exercise his lusts. I am not sure he was looking for love at the time of Bob.

He may have been too far gone already! Darling, What is your point of asking this? To start some dumb, homophobic rant???????????

Oh man,this is scary stuff. I use to work in a casino in my younger days and some chick became infatuated with me, me, being a young women going through divorce at the time.

She made an ass of herself in public and chased me around, wouldn't take no for an answer. I BEAT the crap out of her in the locker room.

We were both reprimanded, she was terminated and I was kept because others stood up for me. I met a boyfriend and she finally left me alone.

Freaking 2 years of hell with her bugging us. It took her some time to get over it. Cops will not do anything unless someone is being physically injured.

Couldn't get a protection order. Was on my own. Boyfriend and I married and after 30 yrs he passed. Still single and ok with that.

Bizzymom, Wow! What a story! I am curious--was this woman a coworker, because how did she gain access to your work locker room?

I was in a similar situation with a gay man way back, and it was scary. I did get an RO, and the police intervened. Sorry you lost your spouse, but glad things are better for you.

Good Luck! I knew Gene. We attended the air traffic academy in Oklahoma City together in I was horrified to hear about his murder that another classmate of ours found out about on the internet.

He was the dearest, most honest and kind man Unknown, I am so sorry for your loss. Gene did not deserve what happened to himn; no one does.

If only someone around the sceen had been more aware! This is one of the saddest murder on Investigation Discovery I've ever heard.

Just ridiculously sad. Gene and his wife should have seen Bob had a real thing for Gene. Just do the math. I dont blame Bob because he was too sick in the head Fetel ne razumije u potpunosti odluku o odlasku.

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Yeah, Bob, whether straight or gay, had a lot of mental problems. Pining for a guy who isn't interested in you is one thing, killing him a whole different thing.

Too bad old Gene didn't have a gun in his pocket. Gene was okay looking, but Bob was a total troll. Sad all around. Slim Jim, I agree Bob was a total troll.

Not that trolls cannot find love, but Gene was, shall we say, out of his league. Being gay and unattractive does not necessarily mean one cannot find a partner.

I am no Jake Gyllenhaal, but have been happily married for a time now. That said, poor Gene never had a clue. When Bob purchased the truck, that should have been a red flag.

But Gene and his wife just chalked up the weirdness to eccentricity. Nothing dangerous or threatening. If Bob had been rational, and Gene more astute, this tragedy might have been avoided.

I agree with you, it was sad all around. Thanks for the comment. Good article. I'm fascinated by this story cause it's bat shit crazy Nothing at all.

That was the first sign he was losing it. Bob was just to unassuming and too naive. King Elite, I agree with you, but Bob was not mentally stable.

Unattractive folk find partners; not all couples out there, gay or straight, are of Hollywood caliber. The first sign of trouble, I think, was following Gene when he moved.

Which is why I wanted more of Bob's back story. Things had been going wrong long before this. Thanks for your comments. I am glad you enjoyed the post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This was a very unusual and interesting case that I saw on ID channel. I thought I would do some research to try and get more information.

How disrespectful and nasty of a person can you be! Bashton T. Paahty, Maybe if you had read beyond the first two sentneces, you would have grasped their context.

Maybe not. Because others who have read the whole thing have stated what you did. I will say this. I welcome your opinion, but it is fascinating to me that this post is, if not the most, one of the most frequently commented upon.

Were this a man-woman story, would it have elicited the same comments, or amount? I wonder. Gender and sexuality have nothing to do with it.

Your lack of compassion and disrespect is the issue. Remember these men especially Gene but including Bob have people who loved them.

The article would have been informative without the comic relief seeing that it missed its mark and instead displayed a plain lack of compassion.

Because you are a nut, not because you are gay, somehow you justify Bob's actions because he is a homosexual.

Quit being a queen and be you. As it is, you embody the same disgusting traits as gay bashers: blind devotion to all that is homosexual.

Baahston Paahy, I am not unaware that both Bob and Gene had people who loved them. In one of the posts--either this or the one I did regarding "The Killer Beside Me" expresses compassionate for those folk, who are victimized by this tragedy, too.

This could have happened no matter what gender or sexual orientation-- you are right about that--but I feel so many detracting comments stem from this being a matter between two men, and can't deal with it.

Deal with it, dolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Primetime, Boy, are you misinformed! If you read the post, nowhere do I justify Bob's actions.

I can understand his motives, but I never said he was right in killing Gene. If you look carefully, somewhere I say that when Bob showed up at Gene's job, and then bought the exact same truck, those should have been red flags for Gene.

I'm nuts? You're the nut, Captain Marvel! As for being who I am, well, darling, this is it, so if you cannot handle it, go elsewhere!

This is when you see the most superficial aspects of the community--which I do not share. Now, go set your afternoon tea, dear!!!!!!!!!!!!

Queen, I found your blog by searching the victim and offender by name. Yours is one of the 1st sites that appeared.

It has zero to do with any gay pride event or you being gay. I respect you as a gay male. I am straight but firmly support your rights and do not stand behind anyone who feels gays are any less entitled to live freely and equally.

My issue with you has zero to do with your sexual orientation. Rather, you seem to think homosexuals are better than others and should be considered at least as a 2nd victim when they commit egregious actions.

Had Gene killed Bob because he would not accept Bob's homosexuality or even if he was able to get the gun, kill Bob in self-defense, I bet dollars doughnuts you would be outraged that the gay basher was a murderer.

The simple facts here all point to Bob as one sick fuck. Minimizing or justifying it in any way is just wrong.

However, your lifestyle should be revered, with entire cities allowing gays to express pride for a week. But damn the christians because they think differently.

Hypocritical much? Fwiw, Queen, I do enjoy your writing style. It has the facts and humor. You definitely inflect that you are a Queen no disrespect intended!

I just think your deduction that Gene should have behaved differently to save his life and your empathy for Bob are way off.

I mean disturbingly off. Reading some of your other replies in the comments here, maybe what you wrote comes off a bit outside of your intent, but you still look at these events far differently than me.

I can agree to disagree! God Bless! Primetime, Of course I agree to disagree. That is what this fourm is all about. I actually do agree with you that Bob was one sick fuck; what I am interested in there is how his upbringing or peronsal experience led to his getting that way.

In the sense of having his life ruined, being driven to suicide, and ruining Gene and his family, I regard Bob as both perp and victim, since his family, too was touched by this tragedy.

I never considered your issues with me about sexual orientation. Though I have to admit, if you had asked me the same question about a gay basher, years back, I would probably have said, "String him up!

Feel free to peruse. I do lighten up, sometimes!!!!!!!!!!!! You must be one of those self righteous opinionated want to be's..

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that no one really knows what went on afterJaye Jaye left and for the sake of filling in the gaps the writers for the show surmised.

You must also be the kind of gay person that my gay friends have told me of in that you are an instigator and just expect that all heterosexual people anti gay.

You ate hateful and you didn't know these people. Neither of them would have cared about someone's choice gay or straight only if they were a decent person who treated others well regardless of their sexual preference,race, ethnicity, ect.

Gene did nothing to warrant what happened to him and Jaye Jaye doesn't deserve to have a sarcastic bigot like you putting your twisted version of her life on your pathetic blog.

Spread love not hate! I agree he would have killed her, too. He regarded her as the obstacle! PharmRecruiter, Boy, are you off!

Rad it again! I say how understanding Jaye Jaye tried to be, and how admirable of her not to hate Bob in the face of what happened. Bob was sick, yes, but this had been building for a long time.

Not much is known back story, and that's where all the gay hate must have started! Never let the Devil in for the ride, because sooner or later he will wanna drive.

Gene should have put his foot down when he saw Bob violating his and his wife's personal space. Most people don't wanna be rude, but sometimes you just have to be, the devil won't play with you Unknown, I agree with you.

Gene was just not that aware, or, as you said, did not want to be rude. Vette, This story was done twice on two different ID programs. I think you're an idiot.

And the tone of your narrative and describing this act of evil is bizarre. You seem amused by it all. There's only one victim here and it ain't Bob.

You are an awful person. These people are dead! Families are left with despair. Show some respect. Being gay doesn't entitle you to be a jerk!

Unknown, I am not denying mental instability in Bob. I believe had Bob been straight, the story would have played out similarly-- except the victim would have been a woman.

I disagree there is only one Bob victim. Bob was mentally ill. He took his life less out of fear of jail then of despair over if he could not have Gene, he could not have no one.

Loneliness is an emotional killer among the gay community. Believe me! I was not trying to be a jerk. I was trying to point out how Bob was in need of help he did not get, and so became as unstable as he did.

Gene had no clue Bob was ill--this is not his fault-- rather the two deficiencies created a perfect storm.

I feel for the victims and the families. Jay Jay at one point said that while she is saddened, she cannot find it in herself to hate Bob.

I don't say gays do jerky things, and I have written some riotous pieces on here! But that's not what I was going for, here.

Sweeet tea, darling?????????? Ok, let me start by admitting that I laughed out loud pretty hard when you talk about going to the kitchen and shoving the Jello Choc pudding down the guy's throat and saying 'EAT THIS!!

I love that I have had a lot of gay friends in my life dunno why, they are like moths to a flame to my admitted nuttiness and looks are so much a priority, and not being funny here, but none of them were any oil painting to look at.

I have just watched 'The Killer Beside Me' re. Gene had a big heart, a kindness about him and he sure loved his dogs a winner for me personally He seemed a lovely man, and I actually think he was not UNattractive at all and his heart made him more so.

It amazes me just how many ugly ass gay men set their standards way higher than what stares back at them in the mirror.

As for feeling sorry for Bob, hell no. He was out and about dicking many men before he latched on like a dose of the clap to poor Gene, so he was not some sad and pathetic loser who could not show his true self to the world.

He was just a sick stalker who wanted someone he could not have, well boo hoo hoo, we have all been there We build a bridge, get over it and get on with life.

Personally, I hope the asshole rots for what he did to a seemingly genuinely nice man. As a straight woman I can attest to the fact that they are bloody hard to come by these days!!

Unknown, I don't deny a lot of what you say, like the superficiality of some gay men. Speaking from experience, I think we all reach for the stars when young and are hormones are raging.

But the reality, when found, as I did, is so much better. You are right Bob was out getting lots of "action;" his problem was he had reached a point where he thought he had found the real thing, only he was wrong.

His sickness stemmed from not moving on, as most would. Gene, while victimized should have been more clued in--if a former coworker transferred to my job site, and bought a truck exactly like mine, red flags would go off for me.

Think of the movie "Single White Female. Gene and Jaye Jaye moreso. Oh, and, darlings, if you think finding a decent straight man is tough, going the gay route is even tougher.

For all reasons previously stated. I really lucked out, and thank God every day. Thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for your words why is any human being sitting here filling in gaps of such horrible tragedy??

You bored so sit here and judge the victims? Humiliating the family of the man who lost his life for trying to be kind to someone who was a loner and what you say odd!!!

Get out here!! Gay has nothing to with this the crime this evil man did!! Sadist comes in all forms and beliefs!!! I feel for you on the closeted!

I have many gay family members and friends! I see their struggle and pain and happiness too!!

Bob was gay ok and so what he was a man that was sick cause gay or straight the outcome would still be the same!! If bob was infatuated with a woman well I feel this would be the case of the woman being killed.

Why did no one in that mans life not see earlier signs of being mentally ill or strange stalker? I mean the behavior shows badly why was gene the only one noticed?

You try to be kind and nice at work but very distance due to the feeling of fear and uncomfortable feeling you have. You hear things outside your window and feel watched it long process that makes you crazy and desperate to make it stop!!

He let it go on??! Please cause I know first hand how he felt and for being a man and man thought more that he just clingy and not all there in the head.

I feel their needs to be more awareness for this!! It happens more than world sees!! I know the scare the fear I am lucky to survive my case!!

Single parent and being working one that took all hours 6 days week! Scary and call police all we want but they too can only do so much.

Wow I missed who said gays pursue straight!! Wow so uneducated or blind from world? Your being taught inside a box never let others tell you what is what without getting out there and seeing for yourself!

Wow get to know people without stereotyping! I love all no matter what!! We all are humans so why do we pick and choose what and who is accepting.

That alone kills me my heart hurts cause what was wrong with him? He was sick he needed some help and no one helped him!!

This tells me people need to stop being so selfish and about themselves so can realize a soul in need!! Bob showed many signs and I just saw this on ID!!

Awareness could help prevent this kind of thing to not happen!! Awareness only can happen if we stop being selfless.

Be that person and step in!! You see it or notice anything odd step in!! Never know you can be one to change a outcome. I saw this today on ID, and several things struck me as very odd.

Not to be disrespectful of the dead, but I wondered if maybe there was a relationship between the two men in the past that might have inspired Bob to follow Gene from one state to another?

I say this because he Bob obviously went to great lengths to be with him Gene. Gene was a Christian, so that would have been a definite no-no.

Also he was previously married for 20 plus years with no children, and he and his present wife were using artificial means of conceiving..

Inquisitive, I saw this same story on two different programs. I never got the idea there had been any relationship between Gene and Bob, other than Gene showing him friendship.

As you said, Gene was Christian, which would have prevented his having a homosexual relationship. The relationship was something manufactured in Bob's disturbed mind.

Gene should have been more astute about what was going on, but, unfortunately, he was not. As for the children thing, I did not pick up on that.

I have known many childless straight couples who are perfectly happy. But sometimes, with the clock ticking, there can be a change of mind.

Thanks for your comments! Tasha, You certainly had a lot to say, and I am glad you were able to get it all out.

I will try to respond to the points that stood out for me in your commentaries. I agree Bob needed help. He had a brother, who knew Bob was gay, but may not have known how disturbed he was.

That Bob was keeping a speaprate residence filled with sex toys says he was on the make. His family may have tried to get him help, but he rejected it.

Gene, I think, was the man Bob really wanted to be--some part of his was self-loathing, and that resulted in' the stalking, attraction, and obesseion.

If only Gene and his wife were aware of this type of behavior on Bob's part, this may not have happened. Now, what is this you say-the way I understand it--about gays pursuing straights being a stereotype?

Au contraire, it is more common than you think, especially among self hating gays. I had a friend who would be constantly attracted to straight men at work, would befriend them, only to consistently become depressed when they did not want more--not even a one to one cup of coffee.

His experience is not unique among gay men. The general public just does not hear about it often. I also agree with you that if Bob were obsessed with a straight woman, this would have happened; hence my "Fatal Attraction" reference in the post.

This kind of behavior can reach across all sexual orientations. But I was glad you took the time to comment.

Unknown, You say Fuck Bob? Darling, that is what he wanted, in the first place????????? It was actually Safety Harbor where the bodies were found.

Not a normal thing at all for this very expensive artsy town, that prides itself in diversity and a great sense of community. Bo was truly a fruitcake!

Janet, I have never been to Safety Harbor, but have heard of it. No denying Bob was a deeply disturbed person. Someone should have intervened for him to get help!

I think Bob watched too much gay porn with fantasies incest, doing it with your straight best friend, etc. Analyst, Point taken, but lots of gay men watch porn, nurse fantasies, but don't act on them at all, or in ways that take peoples' lives.

Bob had a second residence that had sex toys, and was where he could exercise his lusts. I am not sure he was looking for love at the time of Bob.

He may have been too far gone already! Darling, What is your point of asking this? To start some dumb, homophobic rant???????????

Oh man,this is scary stuff. I use to work in a casino in my younger days and some chick became infatuated with me, me, being a young women going through divorce at the time.

She made an ass of herself in public and chased me around, wouldn't take no for an answer. I BEAT the crap out of her in the locker room.

We were both reprimanded, she was terminated and I was kept because others stood up for me. I met a boyfriend and she finally left me alone.

Freaking 2 years of hell with her bugging us. It took her some time to get over it. Cops will not do anything unless someone is being physically injured.

Couldn't get a protection order. Was on my own. Boyfriend and I married and after 30 yrs he passed. Still single and ok with that.

Bizzymom, Wow! What a story! I am curious--was this woman a coworker, because how did she gain access to your work locker room?

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